00;00;08;01 - 00;00;09;14 Hi. I'm Chris Armatas with 00;00;09;14 - 00;00;12;20 the Rocky Mountain Research Station, and I work in Missoula, Montana. 00;00;13;27 - 00;00;17;06 My program focuses in three areas. 00;00;17;06 - 00;00;21;06 Recreation management, which is really a long term 00;00;21;06 - 00;00;24;06 legacy with the Aldo Leopold Wilderness Research Institute. 00;00;24;07 - 00;00;27;21 A lot of recreation management research was really focused there 00;00;27;21 - 00;00;28;25 and started there. 00;00;28;25 - 00;00;31;08 I also work around public engagement. 00;00;31;08 - 00;00;34;08 So say you got 150 people in a room 00;00;34;13 - 00;00;37;07 for a forest plan revision or a comprehensive river 00;00;37;07 - 00;00;41;00 management plan revision, or a recreation program 00;00;41;00 - 00;00;44;12 or any number of issues that you may need public input on. 00;00;45;06 - 00;00;48;06 How do you do that in a structured way that can be really challenging? 00;00;48;20 - 00;00;53;04 a lot of times I'll work on methods and ways to hear from folks 00;00;53;11 - 00;00;57;25 so that when the plan rolls out or the choice is made, 00;00;57;25 - 00;01;00;29 the folks really feel like they've been heard and the public 00;01;00;29 - 00;01;03;29 can see their imprints, on a decision. 00;01;04;10 - 00;01;07;23 And then maybe the third area is kind of collaborative management, 00;01;08;06 - 00;01;09;10 collaborative governance. 00;01;09;10 - 00;01;13;26 and working across, various stakeholder groups and various people 00;01;13;26 - 00;01;14;29 with different interests. 00;01;14;29 - 00;01;16;17 And so if you can get them all in the same room 00;01;16;17 - 00;01;19;17 to talk through those issues and identify a problem together 00;01;19;21 - 00;01;25;04 then that has more lasting impacts, and more resilient decisions. 00;01;25;18 - 00;01;26;04 Overall. 00;01;28;03 - 00;01;29;18 my work is focused on people 00;01;29;18 - 00;01;33;24 as a social scientist, really trying to understand what people are interested 00;01;33;24 - 00;01;38;07 in, what supports their well-being, being drawn from Forest Service lands. 00;01;38;20 - 00;01;40;08 Why that's important to them. 00;01;40;08 - 00;01;44;12 And so that's the main understanding that I'm aiming to get through 00;01;44;12 - 00;01;45;28 pretty much all of my work. 00;01;45;28 - 00;01;49;06 And that's really important for managers, because ultimately managing 00;01;49;06 - 00;01;52;19 our public lands is a people management process in large part. 00;01;53;02 - 00;01;57;06 so understanding people and what they're into and interested in 00;01;57;06 - 00;02;00;11 and what they value can be really important, 00;02;01;00 - 00;02;04;22 when it comes time to planning, you know, often you need social science. 00;02;04;22 - 00;02;08;11 You need to understand recreation experiences, whether they want 00;02;08;11 - 00;02;12;05 spontaneous trips or they want a place that has limited signage 00;02;12;16 - 00;02;16;06 really want that freedom to access and explore within an area. 00;02;16;19 - 00;02;20;19 And it's really hard to know beyond anecdotes, what visitors want. 00;02;20;28 - 00;02;25;09 And so we've been working over the last several years to co-develop or co-produce 00;02;25;25 - 00;02;30;28 visitor surveys with managers that would really apply across, units. 00;02;31;21 - 00;02;34;04 and an understanding that supports their decision 00;02;34;04 - 00;02;37;19 making that is more on target than if you were to do it in the more traditional 00;02;37;26 - 00;02;39;07 way, without their support.